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Friday, June 21, 2013

A COMBAT CRADLE YOUR OPPONENT WILL NOT FORGET.




We love BJJ, and hold it close to our hearts, but unfortunately there are some aspects of the gentle art that are often overlooked or just plain forgotten about. We hope that most, if not all of you realize that there is a lack of foundational wrestling in modern BJJ and Submission grappling. We advise you to add just a few simple techniques into your sub game and you will see drastic improvements in your control and sub percentage. I myself can attest for this, and one of the largest improvements in my game has come directly from catch wrestling. The power of CACC comes directly from its methodology -  the principles of simplicity and efficiency. The art emphasizes strong fundamentals that can carry through to other grappling arts. The turnover is often overlooked in BJJ and unfortunately it takes a back seat to the hooks and back control. As always, when you vary your game and give yourself more options, it gives your opponent less.

Now you can love this man or you can hate him, but take an objective look at Mark Hatmaker's combat cradle. This wrestling technique has been around for years and is used by both freestylers and CACC players alike. Having powerful turnover options like this, open your game up and keeps your opponent in the dark as far as attack - he will be thinking about protecting against the hooks and before he knows it hes on his back with a choke choke or lock set in. Watch and learn this beautiful and efficient turnover that is sometimes known as the bow and arrow.

11 comments:

  1. For submission grappling why would you give up an open back take?

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  2. For some big guys it can be harder to take back with hooks because yer big ol' belly gets in the way.

    I personally prefer a turnover to taking back as it seems like most guys expect it less and I have an easier time controlling and finishing from across-sides rather than back, but that's prolly just reflective of a weakness and a preference in my own game.

    I heart Mark Hatmaker. He created some of the few submission wrestling books one could find in the pre-YouTube era.

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  3. Not cool, the moment you trip him over to his side you lose the guillotine and any arm triangle possibility unless you switch your hand positioning to the opposite side and he also can spin to replace guard on you right after you push him over like that as you negate your choke control on his neck when you push him over, your arm is no longer over his neck arteries so you may crank his neck but you are not threatening with a choke.

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    1. Position over submission?

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    2. Yes, but its better to change position to something dominant. And as a general rule of thumb its always good to threaten with submissions while you are moving position, it can sometimes on its own create movement for you to your advantage while the other guy is defending.

      This position that this guy is showing is not as dominant, in my opinion, as taking the back or mount, so if I had to choose I would prefer to either:
      1). put in the hooks and take his back and then either flatten him out and choke, or if he rolls then roll with him and choke him
      2). Turn him the other way, so that he is on his side with his back FACING you (ie the opposite of this position) and then you can either (1) put in hooks, roll and take the back and choke, or (2) keep him on his side with his back facing you, mount him and go for an arm triangle or kimura.

      I'm sorry but I just dont see how this position works out better for you as a higher percentage scenario or set of moves than what I wrote above.

      If you do what this Hatmaker guy is suggesting, a high level BJJ player (gi or no-gi) will likely replace guard on you, which is terrible.

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    3. Whether you use it or not, it's always good to have options. And like you said, maybe you don't see how this position is useful to you, but that doesn't mean it isn't or at the very least isn't useful to someone else...

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    4. You are right, all I am saying is that there are higher percentage finishing options which you can use which are far less risky for most people.

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  4. If you know how to use a front head lock it's game over already.

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  5. All you guys have valid points and I would refrain from saying anyone is wrong. It's really just based on your perspective and game. As I stated in the post, the more options you have in your arsenal, typically the better. Yes, taking the back and mount are very dominant positions. Put it's one path amongst many. If I have a killer armbar, kimura or kneebar why wouldn't I want to go directly to it by using a turnover. That could be a spiral ride, claw, cradle or whatever your fancy. I have used both approaches myself with success and it depends on the situation.

    “Absorb what is useful, Discard what is not, Add what is uniquely your own.”

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    1. I agree, I did not say anyone was wrong. What I said was (1) there are higher percentage options you can choose which are more dominant for most guys (when I say that I mean your average grappler, irrespective of size and other physical attributes). I also said a high level BJJ grappler will likely replace guard on you when you do this move, and this is very true. If you do not think this is valid, then I suggest you try this cradle move on someone who is say two or three years ahead of you in your class, and see what he does. I'm fairly certain he will replace guard most of the time, which is clearly not good for you.

      I am very open minded to adding techniques, and agree 100% with you on that.

      I am just suggesting that adding techniques that are not high percentage moves, just for the sake of having something extra which you think may surprise someone, is not a good idea. I say that because you never know who you are up against in a competition (most of the time) or in a self defense situation.

      My point is simply - stick with adding high percentage moves that work. That is the safest way to win both in competition and on the street.

      Case in point - RNC/Mata-Leao - everyone, even hot headed types watching MMA, know this choke, but its VERY high percentage, even against experienced grapplers. These are the kind of moves I am referring to when I say high percentage.

      Mount and back are definitely more dominant in terms of control and options for attack and finish than any other position, in my humble view. So why not add moves which you can use from there instead and give yourself more options there?

      Apologies if this was a bit long, I haven't slept in 48 hours :)

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  6. I always like to mount him and sit uright astride of his chest to finish him. This is more dominant and a great killer position if you ride him correctly.

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